Meta.23.1: Barry Kort (moulton) Wed, 06 May 1998 10:52:37 CDT (16 lines)
Kai doesn't like us to talk about specific conferences here where subpopulations meet to talk in private, so let's talk in general about Secret Societies and their impact on the larger community. What are the advantages and disadvantages of Secret Societies? What are the likely and predictable consequences -- both desirable and undesirable -- of having one or more Secret Societies in a community? What vulnerabilities arise in a community that entertains Secret Societies? What happens to the people in them and to the people not in them? For purposes of this discussion, let's define a Secret Society as a group with restricted or exclusive membership that also keeps its deliberations a secret from non-members.
Meta.23.2: (jakking) Wed, 06 May 1998 11:55:00 CDT (1 line)
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Meta.23.3: Liz Adams (boud) Wed, 06 May 1998 12:46:49 CDT (3 lines)
There's an enormous difference between secret and private. A letter mailed from one friend to another may contain nothing that is secret and yet be a private communication.
Meta.23.4: vkarl (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:13:58 CDT (2 lines)
The Illuminati of Cafe Utne don't exist. Fnord
Meta.23.5: Barry Kort (moulton) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:18:05 CDT (7 lines)
Yes, Liz, I'm not talking about private conversations between pairs of people, such as in offline friendships. I'm talking about sizable groups where everyone in the group has equal access to all the transactions within the group, and no one outside the group has any access at all to the deliberations. Karl, I didn't understand your point.
Meta.23.6: vkarl (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:23:59 CDT (2 lines)
What are you talking about? Fnord
Meta.23.7: Kristie (kafzali) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:33:31 CDT (1 line)
I just like the word Fnord myself.
Meta.23.8: to Secret Society members only (skot) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:34:26 CDT (1 line)
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Meta.23.9: Ms. Fnord (kafzali) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:36:23 CDT (1 line)
ROTFLMAO!
Meta.23.10: (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:38:24 CDT (0 lines)
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Meta.23.11: vkarl (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:38:48 CDT (6 lines)
What word? Hey skot...what's with the hiding a post that didn't have a message? fnord
Meta.23.12: Fnord (kafzali) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:39:19 CDT (1 line)
How many Fnords does it take to hijack a Meta topic?
Meta.23.13: heh (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:40:12 CDT (0 lines)
Meta.23.14: Martin Booda (booda) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:50:36 CDT (8 lines)
You don't need to examine the Zapruder film too closely to spot Roxanna opening and closing her umbrella on the grassy knoll and Kai aiming a phaser beneath the triple overpass. When Adam Weishaupt founded Utne in Ingolstadt in 1758, he had just this in mind. Darn, there's a spot on my best leather apron. Well, gotta be getting off to my ZOG meeting, see you all fnord. Or, as they say on USENET, TINC.
Meta.23.15: 6:30 Uknowwhere fnord (bwing) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:51:36 CDT (0 lines)
Meta.23.16: Fnord (kafzali) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:52:33 CDT (1 line)
Um Martin.... don't you mean the grassy *fnord*?
Meta.23.17: hand gesture in front of apron (booda) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:54:10 CDT (0 lines)
Meta.23.18: Roxanna Guilford (jordan) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:54:58 CDT (4 lines)
Excuse me.... Is this where the Trilateral Commission meeting is? The Rothchilds directed me here...
Meta.23.19: vkarl (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:56:44 CDT (2 lines)
It's been moved to in front of the Washington Monument. Bring a one dollar bill and your apron...
Meta.23.20: Fnord (kafzali) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:58:05 CDT (5 lines)
SWOOSH!!!!!! damn those black helicopters.
Meta.23.21: Phillip Lee (phillip) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:58:56 CDT (1 line)
they're like fnordin bugs!
Meta.23.22: ROFTLMAO! (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 13:59:17 CDT (0 lines)
Meta.23.23: Scott Rolfe (skot) Wed, 06 May 1998 14:01:02 CDT (2 lines)
Ignore the bugs fnord. Now there are only spiders. Repeat. There are only _spiders_.
Meta.23.24: Phillip Lee (phillip) Wed, 06 May 1998 14:07:06 CDT (1 line)
Holy fnord! say it ain't so!
Meta.23.25: Fnord (kafzali) Wed, 06 May 1998 14:08:19 CDT (1 line)
What the fnord are you talking about?
Meta.23.26: vkarl (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 14:12:06 CDT (3 lines)
If you compare the Face on Mars with the Martian city west of it, you come up with a diagram of the actual lines of fire in the JFK assassination. fnord
Meta.23.27: Matthew Miller (mattman) Wed, 06 May 1998 14:21:10 CDT (2 lines)
While I'm not "officially" a Member of The Fnords, I have the x-files episode that vaguely alludes to them.
Meta.23.28: Aralia kneels in disbelief (aralia) Wed, 06 May 1998 14:21:51 CDT (4 lines)
I went to Taco Bell at lunch today. NObody's gonna believe this, but I swear I saw Fnord's face in my tortilla. All hail Fnord!
Meta.23.29: Carl Fnord (dior) Wed, 06 May 1998 14:23:09 CDT (4 lines)
Hail Eris! All hail Discordia! 17 is a magic number.
Meta.23.30: Kat fnord (randomchick) Wed, 06 May 1998 14:26:42 CDT (2 lines)
Interestingly enough, Matt, my sources say that not only are you a member of the Fnord, but that you are the leader of the fnords.
Meta.23.31: Fnord Mimsie (kafzali) Wed, 06 May 1998 14:27:41 CDT (2 lines)
I had a Fnord once. But it was allergic to hairspray. So I had to take it back.
Meta.23.32: Matthew Miller (mattman) Wed, 06 May 1998 14:31:16 CDT (1 line)
Achooo!
Meta.23.33: Fnord Mimsie (kafzali) Wed, 06 May 1998 14:32:24 CDT (1 line)
Gesun-fnord.
Meta.23.34: vkarl (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 14:58:29 CDT (5 lines)
Hail Eris! 23 is a magic number. Fnord If you concentrate on the back of a one dollar bill you will see that the eagle is actually a rabbit...
Meta.23.35: Kat (randomchick) Wed, 06 May 1998 14:59:36 CDT (1 line)
Not just any rabbit, but the playboy bunny....
Meta.23.36: vkarl (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:00:16 CDT (1 line)
hmm...I better do some more concentrating. fnord
Meta.23.37: (jakking) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:18:20 CDT (2 lines)
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Meta.23.38: Scott Rolfe (skot) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:19:27 CDT (1 line)
Ah yes. The Fnord Foundation.
Meta.23.39: Shellfnord (shelly59) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:23:35 CDT (2 lines)
I have a used Fnord for sale..only driven on Sundays and garaged year- round, anyone care to make an offer?
Meta.23.40: Rebecca Ryan Hunter (riot) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:26:39 CDT (4 lines)
My cousin's the president of the Intergalactic Chapter of Space Monkey Fnords. It can get you in, if you want. But you have to talk to Matt.
Meta.23.41: fnordvkarlfnord (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:31:10 CDT (7 lines)
Hey becca, There's a meeting of the not-so-secret Secret Society of ###### May ## at the ######### ##### in #########, ## at ##:##pm. See ya there! fnord
Meta.23.42: LOL! (randomchick) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:33:05 CDT (0 lines)
Meta.23.43: Matthew Miller (mattman) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:35:35 CDT (1 line)
Shelly, you guaranteed my confidentiality, how could you do this?!
Meta.23.44: Rebecca Ryan Hunter (riot) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:37:15 CDT (5 lines)
digem, can't make it, at that time, i will be at another ###### meeting, inducting new members (of course, at the ####). you didn't get the memo?
Meta.23.45: vkarl (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:39:59 CDT (9 lines)
becca, Damn, ###### said she had a message for me. I thought she was using a cover that really meant that ###### will not ######## until the ##### is ####, ###### is ####'# ###. To the poster who claims to be mattman, The members of certain secret societies know that you're not the fnord real Matt. Nice try though...
Meta.23.46: Leanne Collier (chiles) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:41:01 CDT (11 lines)
Now children!!!! You are simply proving Master Kort's point by acting so badly. You have nothing to teach him when you react this way (I can't quite decipher the emotion you are expressing, but I'm sure he knows, and IT'S DESTRUCTIVE). It's obvious you are all in a Secret Society, and even though he could be in it, he's so oblivious he hasn't a clue how to find your clubhouse. That is really pissing him off, but don't worry, he'll be back in here soon with some really lame humor to try to make himself look like the gracious flamed one. Meanwhile, carry on, and try to live with the mockery you've made of Barry's SERIOUS whining... ;-P
Meta.23.47: Kat (randomchick) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:42:36 CDT (3 lines)
Don't worry Matt, I know for a fact that #### #### ##, Jr declared you to be the new ##### of ######, in spite of all of the obfuscation by the fnord formerly known as digem.
Meta.23.48: Kat (randomchick) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:43:39 CDT (2 lines)
Ahh Leanne, I forgot! Barry subscribes to the Ayn Rand/Objectivist point of view - the world is about ME ME ME!
Meta.23.49: Matthew Miller (mattman) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:46:11 CDT (1 line)
phew, thanks randomfnord.
Meta.23.50: cute-fnord with a croquet ball (riot) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:50:05 CDT (6 lines)
karl, if you knew what you think you know you'd know what i know and what matt knows and what we all on the inside know to be the Truthfnord with a capital T. ### will call you later on the power ##### fnord and let you know the real deal with fnord mcneil.
Meta.23.51: serious question for kat (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:51:12 CDT (8 lines)
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Meta.23.52: vkarl (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:51:29 CDT (2 lines)
gotcha...will do fnord
Meta.23.53: back to Karl (randomchick) Wed, 06 May 1998 15:56:35 CDT (7 lines)
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Meta.23.54: cute-fnord with a croquet ball (riot) Wed, 06 May 1998 16:00:02 CDT (7 lines)
karl - don't tell people outside the fnord but D&v!d, may be interested in joining this g-d-forsaken place and might possibly be interested in secretive discussions of the aforementioned author. but don't tell anyone who might want to interrupt an otherwise serious conversation with fnording. i hate people like that.
Meta.23.55: katfnord and riotfnord (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 16:04:41 CDT (7 lines)
ok, Since it will be a secret discussion fnord, I'll keep it in mind. kat, don't worry about offending anyone. We'll fnord the young bad poetry writers away. We'll meet for some coffee and talk about it at ########. tata
Meta.23.56: cute-fnord with a croquet ball (riot) Wed, 06 May 1998 16:08:11 CDT (3 lines)
d&v!d is easily the most offensive guy around fnord so i would think he and kat could have a ball being offensive about the topic, together. so long as you fdont hit on him.
Meta.23.57: vkarl (digem) Wed, 06 May 1998 16:10:32 CDT (3 lines)
sounds fnord to me. Send the secret message when d&v!d gets in and we'll meet in ####. You down, kat?
Meta.23.58: Phillip Lee (phillip) Wed, 06 May 1998 16:11:35 CDT (5 lines)
#### and ###### are to #### #### ####### and ##### fnord ##### #### so #### ##### now and ##### ##### fnord #### ##### #### to have #### #### or else ##### ###### ###### ##### fnord. Trust the fnord Luke.